Invest Like The Best
Episode 344 A Platform Approach to Real Estate
Invest Like The Best

Episode 344: A Platform Approach to Real Estate

Invest Like The Best

Episode 344

A Platform Approach to Real Estate

Michael Simanovsky is the Managing Partner of Conversant Capital. We cover his rationale behind making Conversant highly adaptable, the market segment that is most undersupplied, and the surprising investment appeal of billboards.

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(00:03:32) (First question) - Real estate investing through the lens of the capital cycle

(00:06:50) - The capital cycle in practice

(00:12:07) - Using evaluation of supply to determine where you are in a capital cycle

(00:13:16) - Why real estate drew Mike in 

(00:15:35) - The quality of investors in real estate

(00:16:41) - What the US market needs most

(00:20:26) - The range of returns in real estate

(00:23:01) - Insights that stand out

(00:26:45) - Starting a new company vs. building a portfolio of assets

(00:28:46) - Key trade-offs and choices when building a firm

(00:31:10) - Where things go wrong

(00:33:59) - Best investment decision he ever made

(00:38:06) - Philosophy on CapEx

(00:39:52) - Misconceptions about real estate investing 

(00:41:31) - Cold storage real estate

(00:43:13) - The most interesting corners of the real estate market

(00:46:13) - AI and its impact on the future

(00:48:30) - Common investor missteps 

(00:50:51) - Three guests Mike would invite to a dinner party 

(00:52:34) - The most impactful questions to ask a real estate investor

(00:53:17) - A defining moment of his career

(00:53:17) - The premise of the platform approach

(00:56:20) - Possible opportunities and an understanding of the current landscape

(01:03:38) - Lessons Mike learned from basketball coach John Wooden’s philosophies 

(01:04:30) - The kindest thing anyone has ever done for him

A Platform Approach to Real Estate

Introduction

Patrick
Our guest today is Mike Simanovsky. Mike is the managing partner of Conversant Capital, a real estate investment firm he founded in early 2020. Conversant is unique in that it aims to be the most flexible capital provider in real estate investing across public and private markets as well as through equity and credit.

The firm will also incubate platforms where they see an opportunity to take advantage of a compelling theme, and there are no existing business models to invest in. We cover the most undersupplied part of the market, why he's building Conversant to be so flexible and the surprising appeal of billboards. Please enjoy my conversation with Mike Simanovsky.

The Capital Cycle

Mike, maybe an interesting way to frame our entire discussion of real estate is through the lens of the capital cycle, just told me on a long enough time horizon, everything is sort of cyclical. What is the capital cycle? And why is an interesting lens through which to view real estate investing?

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