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Episode 96 Business Gone Bad and the Art of Persistence
Invest Like The Best

Episode 96: Business Gone Bad and the Art of Persistence

Business Gone Bad and the Art of Persistence

Bethany McLean is a nonfiction writer and journalist. We cover what it takes to be a good investigative journalist, the intersection of ethics and business, and the various businesses and scandals she has covered in her career.

[00:02:22] – (First Question) – Differences and similarities between investors and journalists

[00:03:19] – What has more of an impact on business practices, exposing negatives or reporting positive

[00:04:57] – First story that got Bethany intrigued with finding bad behaviors

[00:06:19] – The process of getting to know the people who know more than the market

[00:07:43] – Mindsets: Optimism vs. Complacency vs. Pessimism

[00:08:18] – First short seller that garnered her interest

[00:08:57] – The process that led to The Smartest Guys in the Room: The Amazing Rise and Scandalous Fall of Enron

[00:10:36] – How to ask questions

[00:12:18] – Importance of preparation

[00:12:49] – Commonalities among the motivations for people who do bad things

[00:14:20] – Difference between a visionary and a fraud

[00:15:42] – Free Radicals: The Secret Anarchy of Science

[00:16:23] – Any standout frauds that told a really compelling story

[00:17:33] – Looking into Valeant

[00:19:32] –Writing about the #MeToo movement

[00:19:34] – Disgraced ex-BofA exec raises uncomfortable questions about #MeToo

[00:21:49] – Thoughts on the spectrum of chasing this story

[00:23:26] – Ways journalist can fairly impact this movement

[00:24:14] – The romance of owning a home in America and what it has meant for the market

[00:24:34] – Shaky Ground: The Strange Saga of the U.S. Mortgage Giants

[00:28:27] – What has changed on her thinking about housing

[00:30:24] – What role does Fannie and Freddie have in the market today

[00:31:13] – Her desire to look into energy

[00:32:26] – Saudi America: The Truth About Fracking and How It’s Changing the World

[00:35:05] – What have been the changes in energy market in the US

[00:34:40] – Twilight in the Desert: The Coming Saudi Oil Shock and the World Economy

[00:37:01] – Where are we in the life cycle of energy production

[00:38:27] – The more boring things that are actually the drivers of our economy

[00:38:29] – Technologies that shaped industrial revolution in America

[00:39:42] – Where can people learn more about how our energy independence will impact other markets

[00:41:10] – Why is Peter Elkin the best investigative journalist

[00:42:24] – Most relentless she has ever been

[00:43:58] – Who is doing it right

[00:44:38] – All the Devils Are Here: The Hidden History of the Financial Crisis

[00:45:36] – Her take on reporting the The Hunt for Steve Cohen story

[00:49:01] – How her views have evolved over her career and lessons learned

[0050:40] – Are there ways to prevent success from leading people down a bad path

[00:53:48] – The role of empathy in her career

[00:55:13] – Kindest thing anyone has done for Bethany’s career

Business Gone Bad and the Art of Persistence

Intro

Patrick
I've often heard that good investors are a bit like journalists, doggedly collecting evidence and building an understanding of how all the pieces of a company or an investment fit together. My guest this week is one of my favorite writers and journalists, Bethany McLean. Across her career, Bethany has covered many of the most interesting stories in business and investing from Enron, which became the famous book and documentary, The Smartest Guys in the Room, to Valeant, Wells Fargo, SAC Capital, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the great financial crisis, and most recently Fracking in the Energy Revolution. Given how deeply she has investigated all of these topics and thought about the common threads that cross them all, this was an amazing conversation.

When talking to her, you can feel how much he cares and how diligent and fair she is when analyzing a topic. In addition to all the great stories I already listed, we discussed the Art of Persistence and the other lessons she has learned about businesses and people gone bad. I especially loved her evolving take on housing in America. Please enjoy this great conversation with Bethany McLean.

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