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Episode 349 Making Sense of the Market Pt.2
Invest Like The Best

Episode 349: Making Sense of the Market Pt.2

Invest Like The Best

Episode 349

Making Sense of the Market Pt.2

Aswath Damodaran is a Professor of Finance. We cover the major sources of uncertainty in today's macro environment, how he developed an unconventional method of valuing businesses, and his take on the AI boom and Nvidia's meteoric growth.

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(00:02:45) - (First question) - The general prevailing narrative in markets today

(00:05:00) - The biggest business implications given the current market landscape  

(00:06:45) - Why it’s bad to have risky founders with cheap capital trying experiments

(00:08:53) - The natural rate of interest and how it’s priced 

(00:09:55) - His updated view and thoughts on what’s currently driving inflation  

(00:11:05) - What it’s felt like valuing companies given rates being where they are

(00:13:35) - Macro variables that most have his attention today

(00:14:45) - The nature of the trouble that we’re all in 

(00:18:45) - Whether or not international equities will become a place of interest

(00:21:53) - The unique absolute basis of NVIDIA’s growth 

(00:23:25) - His take on the new wave of AI in a broad sense 

(00:29:15) - Trying to value AI companies without tangible business models

(00:30:15) - Ways investment firms might change given all of the new tools being developed  

(00:32:45) - The parts of his own valuation process that are beyond automation 

(00:34:20) - Thoughts on a natural end state equilibrium for active management  

(00:35:55) - Commonalities between investors who beat the benchmark 

(00:38:35) - Episodes on his own path that lead him towards his investment philosophy 

(00:42:05) - How he goes about valuing non-traditional companies like sports franchises 

(00:46:45) - The world of entertainment and how he sees it as a business today 

(00:52:40) - Whether or not streaming platforms are amazing businesses  

(00:53:45) - The best business models he’s ever seen 

(00:55:40) - What valuing Instacart taught him about online grocery shopping

(00:58:55) - The most interesting company he valued over the last year

(01:00:45) - A well known company he wouldn’t bother valuing using his typical model

(01:03:25) - How bank failures changed his thinking on our financial systems and banks as businesses writ large 

(01:06:15) - The changing attitude towards ESG investing 

(01:11:30) - Wanting a smaller scale sustainable firm to build with longevity in mind

(01:11:11) - Why there are still so many pools of capital that pursue an active strategy

(01:11:06) - Being sick and tired of the conversation always revolving around central banks

(01:14:51) - Sitting by the ocean and reflecting on issues that inform his investing 

(01:15:53) - What he’s most excited to look into over the coming year

(01:17:53) - Major differences between a financial and an accounting balance sheet

 

Making Sense of the Market Pt.2

Introduction

Patrick
Our guest today is Aswath Damodaran, who's joining us for a second time on Invest Like the Best. Aswath is a Professor of Finance at NYU Stern School of Business and is often referred to as The Dean of Valuation for his clarity of thought on the subject. This conversation picks up where we left off 18 months ago and covers a wide range of topics from macro risks to NVIDIA and the process of crafting a personal investment philosophy. Please enjoy this great discussion with Aswath Damodaran.

What's Going On In Today's Market

So Aswath about 1.5 years ago now, we had our first conversation, which was, I think, at the time, our most listened to ever. So let's see if we can top it here today. To do that, we have to do a whirlwind tour of the world of markets and business and investing. And I thought I'd just begin by asking you for your state of the union on the market overall. Just sort of kind of the last part of the year, the last quarter, been kind of a wild year, last 18 months. I'm just curious for your take on the general prevailing narrative as you see it of what's going on in markets today.

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