Invest Like The Best
Episode 402 Building Cognition
Invest Like The Best

Episode 402: Building Cognition

Invest Like The Best

Episode 402

Building Cognition

Scott Wu is the co-founder and CEO of Cognition. We cover the history of programming from punch cards to LLMs, how AI agents like Devin can 10x a software engineer's productivity, and why he's optimistic about the future of jobs in the industry.

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Show Notes:

(00:00:00) Welcome to Invest Like the Best

(00:07:00) Discussion of Devin's current capabilities as a junior engineer

(00:09:00) Early use cases and customer adoption

(00:11:00) Comparison between IDE assistants and Devin's autonomous approach

(00:14:00) History of computer programming and its evolution

(00:17:00) Scott's background in competitive programming

(00:20:00) Future predictions for AI in software engineering

(00:26:00) Explanation of AI agents and their significance

(00:29:00) Technical details of how Devin is built

(00:40:00) Impact on software engineering jobs and industry

(00:47:00) Discussion of business model and pricing

(00:52:00) Thoughts on AGI and its practical implications

(00:59:00) Commentary on the competitive landscape

(01:24:00) Future of AI adoption across industries

(01:25:00) Card trick demonstration

(01:29:00) The Kindest Thing Anyone Has Done For Scott

Building Cognition

Introduction

Patrick
My guest today is Scott Wu. Scott is the co-founder and CEO of Cognition, which is an applied AI lab that has created the first AI software engineer, which they called Devin. In just a year since founding Cognition, Devin functions at the level of a junior software engineer, capable of handling complete engineering workflows from bug fixing to submitting pull requests.

Scott is a former competitive programming champion, and he describes the engineering field as simply the art of telling a computer what you want it to do. Scott predicts AI will surpass the world's best competitive programmer within one to two years and sees this technology not as replacing programmers, but as democratizing software creation.

We discussed the bottleneck in software development, the future of AI in various industries, and the challenges of leveling up Devin. The implication of Scott's work and Devin itself is enormous. Please enjoy my great conversation with Scott Wu.

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