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Episode 192 The Modern Activist Toolkit
Invest Like The Best

Episode 192: The Modern Activist Toolkit

Invest Like The Best

Episode 192

The Modern Activist Toolkit

Lauren is the co-founder and Managing Partner of Impactive Capital, an activist investment management firm. We cover the entire activist toolkit, dive deep on how the modern activist playbook differs from traditional methods, and explore how she helps create value for companies.

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[00:02:31] – (First question) – Lauren's background and how she landed at Impactive Capital

[00:06:25] – Impactive’s strategy vs the stereotype of the activist investor

[00:10:55] – Potential candidates for what they do 

[00:13:26] – How they view the small cap tech world as the space is dominated by huge companies

[00:15:24] – How capital allocation has evolved over her career

[00:15:30] – The Outsiders: Eight Unconventional CEOs and Their Radically Rational Blueprint for Success

[00:17:38] – Best capital allocation strategies and mistakes that most companies make

[00:18:48] – The levers activists pull: cap structure; capital allocation and operating structure

[00:22:00] – Major lessons from earlier in her career

[00:23:25] – Major changes in Governance as part of the ESG strategy

[00:26:13] – The issue of dual-class stock in the space

[00:27:35] – Features of a pristine healthy board

[00:28:40] – Board’s role setting incentives and objectives for management

[00:29:55] – How she thinks about the E&S in ESG and how it helps shareholders

[00:32:56] – Applying her strategy in a real-world example

[00:37:40] – What they look for in a business when it comes to sum of the parts

[00:40:29] – Businesses that are misunderstood and what she looks for in that category

[00:41:39] – How she manages relationships with the boards

[00:45:11] – What she has learned transitioning business models

[00:47:08] – The rise of employee activism 

[00:50:02] – What she’s seeing in terms of diversity and inclusion in board rooms and C-Suites

[00:53:32] – Best practices and ways to disrupt hiring

[00:57:48] – Something she doesn’t understand well today that she wishes she did

[00:58:59] – Kindest thing anyone has done for her

The Modern Activist Toolkit

Introduction

Patrick
My guest this week is Lauren Taylor Wolfe. Lauren is the co-founder and Managing Partner of Impactive Capital. Prior to founding Impactive, she spent 10 years at Blue Harbour Group, a $3 billion activist investment firm. Our conversation is on the modernization of the activist investor playbook. How investors engage with companies to make them better and improve long term outcomes. We discuss the entire activist toolkit, focusing on what has changed the most in recent years. Please enjoy my conversation with Lauren Taylor Wolfe.

So Lauren, if you can believe it, it's been probably several years now since we had lunch in New York City and talked about doing this for the first time and finally, here we are all these years later. I'm so excited to have you. Welcome.

Lauren
I know. It's great to be here. I'm sorry to be so slow in the uptake.

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