Making Markets
Episode 4 Exploring ETFs
Making Markets

Episode 4: Exploring ETFs

Making Markets

Episode 4

Exploring ETFs

Jeremy is the Global Chief Investment Officer at WisdomTree. We cover the mechanics of an ETF in detail, why it's been so successful in the equity world, and the probability of a Bitcoin ETF.

(00:01:47) - First Question - A summary of Jeremy’s paper he wrote with Professor Siegel

(00:04:31) - An explanation of how the S&P committee adds companies to their list 

(00:05:59) - A hypothesis on passive investing and its pros and cons for the S&P

(00:07:51) - What investors do when a company hits zero

(00:09:40) - The 7 market cap companies and how they impact the index  

(00:10:47) - A snapshot of WisdomTree and its business

(00:12:53) - The 2006 competing products and SEC’s resistance to ETFs  

(00:15:09) - How a create /redeem system works 

(00:18:06) - The definition of a simple ETF basket is

(00:18:53) - How banks avoid taxes when transferring equities

(00:20:16) - Jeremy’s strongest argument against ETFs

(00:21:58) - How authorized participants make money from ETFs  

(00:23:11) - The early push backs of ETFs 

(00:25:02) - Index rules and who can post performance

(00:27:17) - A breakdown of CRSP (Center for Research in Security Prices??)  

(00:27:45) - The pros of self indexing and capitalizing on the ETF market

(00:28:57) - The reason why fixed income ETFs haven't shared the similar growth of other ETFs

(00:30:46) - The bond market and its major flaws

(00:32:20) - Common themes of successful products

(00:36:51) - Similar themes of products that do not work out 

(00:38:41) - Where the Bitcoin ETF stands today 

(00:40:14) - Which ETF providers will have access the the Bitcoin ETF  

(00:43:18) - When the Bitcoin ETF might be available 

(00:43:33) - The likelihood of non-bank providers stepping in to provide Bitcoin ETFs

(00:44:22) - How providers find out and ETF has been approved

(00:44:54) - Jeremy’s most popular tweet is

(00:45:27) - Alternative data sets and why they are important  

(00:47:49) - The distribution of mortgages and how many people do not have them 

(00:49:45) - Professor Siegel's view on the market

(00:51:40) - Where Jeremy thinks we are in the cycle

 

Exploring ETFs

Introduction

Eric
My guest today is Jeremy Schwartz. Jeremy is the Global Chief Investment Officer at WisdomTree. Before joining the group in 2005, he was the head research assistant for Professor Jeremy Siegel and has helped co-author a number of books and papers with him over the years, including his popular, Stocks for the Long Run book.

Since joining WisdomTree, Jeremy has been instrumental in developing their world-renowned ETF expertise, and that is the focus of our discussion today. We break down the investment wrapper, explore why some ETFs have become massive and learn why they aren't as popular in fixed income. Please enjoy my conversation with Jeremy Schwartz.

The Long-Term Return of the S&P500

So to start my day, I thought I would bring out your paper from, I think, 2004, about the S&P and index returns. And it's always an interesting topic in finance circles about passive investing and the absolute parabolic rise of passive. But over almost 20 years ago, you wrote a paper with the famous Professor Jeremy Siegel about how the S&P and the names that are entered impact the return. So why don't you give a summary about that because I have a lot of questions I wanted to dive in because I think it's relevant today.

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