Transcript
Introduction
Patrick
My guests today are Gerry O'Reilly and Jim Rowley. Gerry oversees roughly $800 billion in assets for Vanguard, including their flagship total market fund. He does so quietly with great humility. Jim is a senior investment analyst with Vanguard with deep knowledge of both indexing and ETS. I've always been impressed with Vanguard as an institution, so it was a blast diving into some of the particulars that make the company and its funds tick. For show notes on this episode, visit investorfieldguide.com/vanguard. Now, please enjoy my conversation with Gerry O'Reilly and Jim Rowley. Hello Jim and Gerry. Thank you very much for doing this with me today. This is going to be a really fun conversation. I think some of the interesting minutiae that we'll get into around index investing and Vanguard's active strategies as well will be great fodder for the listening audience out there. I'd love to start with something fun which is, that I have recently gotten very into running, you can see where this is going and looked up with the last name O'Shaughnessy all of the Irishman who had broken the four-minute mile. I was reading Phil Knight's new book, Shoe Dog, which I really enjoyed and saw in connection with the interview that you, Gerry had, I think the third fastest time at... certainly at Villanova, but some four-minute mile. I'd love to hear, just tell me a little bit about the first time you did it.
Gerry
Okay. I had been knocking on the door of four-minute miles for my sophomore year in college. Just for whatever reason, at 4.001, four-point two-tenths of a second just never quite got there. At the end of my sophomore year, a little disappointed and then went into my junior year and figured, okay, this year it's going to happen and trained as I'd never trained before. When I got the opportunity, I actually went from, instead of running 3:59 or 3:58, I actually went from a four-minute miler to a 3:54 miler. I took almost six seconds off my personal best in one race. That was, I think just... I think the fact that I didn't have success in my sophomore year in terms of breaking, made me more determined. That's kind of was the fodder for breaking it.