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Episode 46 The MCU: A Marvel Deep-Dive
Making Media

Episode 46: The MCU: A Marvel Deep-Dive

Making Media

Episode 46

The MCU: A Marvel Deep-Dive

Joanna Robinson is the author of MCU: The Reign of Marvel Studios. We cover the MCU's story from its humble beginnings to its recent stumbles, the five reasons behind Marvel's spectacular success, and what makes Kevin Feige a genius.

(00:02:13) - (First question) - The evolution of Joanna's relationship with Marvel

(00:05:22) - Ranking the importance to the success of The Marvel Cinematic Universe

(00:07:00) - The importance of technology early on with the films

(00:08:27) - How Marvel thinks about the distribution of its intellectual property

(00:11:18) - The lessons from Marvel's strategy to focus movies on B their grade characters

(00:14:26) - Joanna's opinion on whether the success of The Avengers also might have led to Marvel's downfall

(00:17:41) - Whether MCU's success was an organic result of timing or if there's a replicable formula for success today

(00:23:10) - How David Maisel pulled off the Merrill Lynch financing deal

(00:27:06) - Kevin Feige's long-term plan and whether the interconnected universe was always a core idea

(00:30:16) - The unique ownership situation of the Hulk between Marvel and Universal

(00:34:16) - Marvel's retention of autonomy key to the Disney acquisition

(00:37:52) - Post Avengers Endgame and possible reasons why MCU has struggled

(00:41:12) - The effect Disney Plus has had on MCU

(00:43:23) - The difficulties Marvel faces with creating TV content

(00:47:17) - Moving forward and future potential with iconic properties like the X-Men and Fantastic Four

(00:51:17) - Joanna's opinion on the statement that Marvel has ruined movies

(00:55:29) - Debrief

The MCU: A Marvel Deep-Dive

Introduction

Matt
Welcome back to Making Media. Today, we are talking Marvel. It's the cinematic universe that's made over $30 billion at the box office, and that's just the Hollywood piece. The merchandise for Marvel is said to have generated over $40 billion for Disney. And remember, Disney acquired Marvel for $4 billion in 2009.

So even though that's comparing a top line number to an acquisition number, something tells me the profit margins on that more than paid back for that original acquisition. Our guests today is Joanna Robinson, who has written what I'd consider to be the definitive book on Marvel's history.

We cover the history of Marvel from the pre-Disney days and even the pre-Robert Downey Jr. Iron Man days and what led to the explosion in what happened over the past 15 years. We also cover what seems like a fall from grace in recent years, and Joanna gets into details on all of this. She has had so many conversations, and we can't recommend the book highly enough. So please enjoy this conversation on Marvel and stick around for our debrief at the end of the episode.

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