Making Markets
Episode 18 The TAM of Crypto
Making Markets

Episode 18: The TAM of Crypto

Making Markets

Episode 18

The TAM of Crypto

Haseeb Qureshi is a Managing Partner at Dragonfly Capital. We cover his incredible backstory, his approach to investing in crypto startups, and his biggest miss as a VC.

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(00:00:00) Welcome to Making Markets

(00:01:27) First question - Haseeb’s stance on the current developments in the crypto world

(00:04:26) Whether the established precedent for Bitcoin ETF negates the need for further court cases

(00:10:50) Advantages of trading ETFs over traditional assets and whether it could entice large institutions into cryptocurrency trading

(00:15:16) Haseeb’s background in poker and the Portuguese prodigy story

(00:24:10) Comparing fulfillment earning wealth between poker playing and trading in crypto

(00:28:10) Patterns of disillusionment in people who make significant wealth in crypto

(00:38:15) How Haseeb’s experience as a founder shaped his perspective on venture capital

(00:46:42) How Haseeb first got together with Naval Ravikant

(00:54:24) The initial vision for launching Dragonfly

(00:58:55) How common it is for founders to relocate to other countries for crypto-related ventures

(01:01:21) The size and scope of Dragonfly today and the acquisition of Metastable

(01:09:01) Navigating the challenge of not second-guessing decisions

(01:14:01) The challenges the industry has had with consumer adoption, particularly in cases like NBA Top Shot and Keone

(01:21:31) Where Haseeb thinks the crypto market is currently in the cycle

The TAM of Crypto

Introduction

Eric
Eric, the reality is that the Bitcoin ETF, everyone more or less knew that this was coming, already priced into the markets. You can see that from the fact that Bitcoin price didn't really move very much going into the Bitcoin ETF launching. Obviously, it's going to be an on-ramp for institutional capital to find its way into crypto. But to my mind, the more significant thing is it really shows the attitudes towards crypto are changing.

And there's just been this deluge of headlines and regulatory wins on behalf of crypto that I think are very difficult to ignore for people who are opponents of the industry. I think the most interesting part of the Bitcoin ETF is not the day one volume, not which tickers are winning. The thing is, is this good for Bitcoin and what does it mean for the rights of American investors to invest in the assets they want to invest into.

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