Transcript
Introduction
Patrick
My guest today is Jeff Ptak. Jeff is the head of global manager research at Morningstar. This puts him in a unique position to discuss the state of active management because he gets to see mutual funds from both the bottom-up, through deep diligence on investment strategies and firms, and top-down using Morningstar's data to assess industry-wide trends. Jeff is one of my favorite myth-busters, so be sure to check out a few of the articles he's written linked in the show notes, which can be found at investorfieldguide.com/ptak, which is P-T-A-K. When we spent most of our time discussing different variables for assessing active managers and mutual funds, we also covered his favorite punk rock bands. Please enjoy our conversation. Okay, Jeff, thank you very, very much for doing this with me today. I've always been envious of people in seats like yours, where you have this interesting top-down and bottom-up view of the asset management business, mutual funds, ETFs. And so, maybe where we could start that would be interesting would be to hear, what trends in broadly speaking in the mutual fund and ETF space have your attention and interest today?
Jeff
Yeah, so first off, thanks Patrick for having me. It's a great pleasure to be able to join you and share our perspective. I would say that certainly the most prevalent trend that we're seeing right now, and this will be familiar I think to a number of your listeners is, the shift towards the lower cost mediums for investment, most notably passive and specifically ETFs. And so, it seems the tide is going out on active, and the money is moving into passive low-cost investments. We've seen a pretty significant shift in market share, just focusing on the US from active I should say, into passive. That is from higher-cost investments into lower-cost investments, and so certainly that's something that we're focusing on. But in a sense that, that's a bit of a result of other forces that have swept the industry, the opening up of platforms, the un-bundling delivery of advice and investment solutions. I think that that's probably spurred the focus on cost among other things and that's one of the reasons why investors and those that are representing them have moved towards passive investments. So, if there's one thing that's probably the biggest one, that's got our attention.