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Episode 29 Premeditated Success
Invest Like The Best

Episode 29: Premeditated Success

Premeditated Success

Jim O’Shaughnessy is the Founder, Chairman, and Co-Chief Investment Officer of O’Shaughnessy Asset Management. We cover the importance of removing emotion from investing, the books that Jim would prescribe to everyone, and the biggest lessons he's learned running businesses.

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[00:02:50] – (First question) – How Jim got interested in investing and spent a lot of time at the James J. Hill research library in St. Paul, Minnesota.

[00:06:03] – Going in-depth on IA (Jim’s grandfather and Patrick’s great grandfather) and how character is fate

[00:10:24] – Exploring the idea of pre-meditation and how it works

[00:11:47] – Why you need to be bold

[00:13:44] – Why you must be able to remove the emotion from investing

[00:16:01] – How factor-based investing can be derailed very easily if you don’t have the discipline to follow it

[00:18:57] – Looking at the mentoring relationship between Jim and Patrick, highlighted by an important mantra “look it up.”

[00:20:09] – 5 books Jim would recommend

[00:24:57] – Looking at the stage of his career that Jim felt most alive

[00:28:04] – Looking at the first robo-advisor like portfolio that Jim launched, Netfolio

[00:35:13] – The evolution of emotional response and the four horsemen of the investment apocalypse

[00:39:50] – Biggest lessons learned from running businesses

[00:45:32] – Something Jim is most proud of in his career. 

[00:47:38] – Back to pre-meditation and wondering what roles in plays in luck and success

[00:52:55] – The most memorable day of Jim’s career

[00:54:03] – What does Jim do that looks hard to outsiders, but is really easy for Jim

[00:57:02] – What are some skills that Jim believes you can get better at with hard work

[01:02:53] – Kindest thing anyone has done for Jim

Premeditated Success

Introduction

Patrick
My guest this week is my father, Jim O'Shaughnessy. I debated whether or not to do this interview, but many people have asked for it. I'm glad that I did. I had never heard a few of the stories he tells, which is a testament to the power of this kind of interview.My dad was a pioneer of quantitative equity research, part of an early group of explorers that studied factors which predicted future stock returns. While many of his peers were academics, he was a pure practitioner from day one. Along with others at our firm, we've been through a lot together professionally and everyone would agree that the guy has ice water in his veins and unwavering discipline, two traits that can bring you far as an investor.For those looking for a discussion of factor investing, look elsewhere. Because we agree on just about everything in the world of investing, we chose to instead discuss what has been a fascinating career, chock full of business and life lessons.What's most interesting about our relationship is that he's taught me very few things in particular. Instead, he's opened the doors which have allowed me to learn and experience so much more on my own than I ever could have hoped to learn under his direct tutelage. It's the model for fatherhood that I am using with my kids, and I couldn't be more thankful for the example he has set.We talk about premeditation, business, learning, books, and his wild experience during the tech boom. For show notes on this episode, visit investorfieldguide.com/jim. And now please enjoy my conversation with Jim O'Shaughnessy.

James J. Hill Public Library

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