Invest Like The Best
Episode 134 Why Venture is Hard
Invest Like The Best

Episode 134: Why Venture is Hard

Invest Like The Best

Episode 134

Why Venture is Hard

Jerry Neumann is a venture investor at Neu Venture Capital. We cover why investing with one’s gut is a bad idea, investment risk, and why some of the popular edges in startups, like network effects, may be picked over.

[00:01:17] – Jerry's take on the venture landscape and the type of investments new VC’s are making vs what they should be making

[00:03:44] – Most important implications of excess VC firms

[00:05:32] – Misalignment of incentives in the VC space

[00:08:19] – What he does differently from angel investors or VC’s

[00:10:11] – The notion of risk and the types of risk the people he invests in takes

[00:14:33] – Protections that he thinks about when it comes to the ideas he invests in

[00:19:37] – Is there an area of expertise that provides an edge for startups

[00:20:11] – Network effects are picked over

[00:21:35] – IP protection

[00:23:08] – One of the two most interesting things for VC’s to go after, brands

[00:25:13] – The other most important thing, the value chain

[00:27:42] – A current example of a disruptive value chain

[00:29:14] – Innovation as the source of profit

[00:31:50] – Efficiency innovation vs value innovation

[00:35:50] – Efficiency investments he’s made

[00:37:13] – Investment in Unsupervised and the machine learning landscape

[00:41:25] – Investment in Sila

[00:43:14] – Investment in Edmit

[00:44:44] – Investing on gut

[00:50:32] – Black boxes and their value in investments

[00:53:23] – Metrics about the predictive level of whether people are going to succeed

[00:54:45] – What defines good people worth backing

[00:57:50] – Advice for LP investors in this space and how they should evaluate VC’s in this space

Why Venture is Hard

Introduction

Patrick
My guest this week is Jerry Neumann. Jerry is one of the most thoughtful early stage investors that I've encountered and his writings at reactionwheel.net are my favorite on this topic. He applies an incredibly structured way of thinking to a notoriously mysterious investment category. This is our second conversation in which we cover why investing with one's gut is a bad idea, and why some of the popular edges in startups like network effects may be picked over. Please enjoy our conversation.

Growth of Venture Capital

So Jerry, for round two we will cover a whole lot of new things, even since we last talked a year and a half ago or whenever it was, a lot's changed in the world and the proliferation of venture capital as an interesting topic and just the number of people doing it has continued to grow. So I thought it would be fun to start there. You mentioned when you started doing this there was maybe 100, you literally counted, venture investors deploying money into markets, and now there's probably north of 1000. And this has a variety of implications for investors in these types of strategies and for the GPs themselves. So I'd love to walk through sort of your take on today's venture landscape, and the types of investments that VCs are making versus maybe the ones you're making and you think early stage investors should make.

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