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Episode 175 The Art and Science of the Bundle
Invest Like The Best

Episode 175: The Art and Science of the Bundle

Invest Like The Best

Episode 175

The Art and Science of the Bundle

Shishir Mehrotra is the founder of Coda. He previously ran product at YouTube and sits on Spotify's Board of Directors. We cover why bundling is one of the most powerful business ideas, what is commonly misunderstood about bundling, and his frameworks for thinking about problems.

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[00:01:37] – (First question) – The arc of his career 

[00:03:01] – Why he has an interest in bundling

[00:07:14] – The concepts of superfan, casual fan, and nonfan businesses

[00:10:34] – Using Spotify as an example of bundles 

[00:12:53] – The first myth of bundling: Bundling is bad for consumers

[00:17:22] – The second myth of bundling: 1st vs 3rd party providers and the bundlers

[00:22:32] – Low usage but high Marginal Churn Contribution [MCC] business

[00:23:55] – How insurance fits into these models  

[00:26:06] – Myth 3 of bundling: How this impacts consumers 

[00:31:41] – How marginal costs play into the thinking of bundling

[00:34:23] – Myth 4: Bundling things that have nothing to do with each other 

[00:39:20] – How bundling companies can apply this into their product development

[00:42:50] – Strategic advice to companies building bundles

[00:48:30] – How price and pricing power play into advantages for certain bundlers

[00:53:45] – How does bundling play into his investing thesis

[00:56:16] – Most interesting bundles he’s observed

[00:58:13] – Eigenquestions: The Art of Framing Problems

[00:58:42] – What the future of this trend is

[01:01:53] – What is an eigenquestion 

[01:05:58] – Kindest thing anyone has done for him 

The Art and Science of the Bundle

Introduction

Patrick
My guest today is Shishir Mehrotra and the topic of our conversation is the business bundle. Offering access to multiple products, services, or providers for a single bundled price. This topic is full of incorrect preconceived notions. And as it turns out, the bundle is one of the most powerful ideas in business. Properly harnessed, it is good for everyone involved. Shishir explains the ins and outs of bundles in this conversation. Shishir ran product at YouTube for years and sits on the Spotify Board of Directors. He founded and now leads Coda which is a doc spelled backward, in 2014. To bundle together productivity apps like docs, spreadsheets, databases, and applications. I love this wonky detailed conversation which has me thinking differently about many businesses and business strategy more generally. Please enjoy.

Curiosity Around Bundling

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