Invest Like The Best
Episode 194 Upside Down Markets
Invest Like The Best

Episode 194: Upside Down Markets

Invest Like The Best

Episode 194

Upside Down Markets

The pseudonymous Jesse Livermore is one of the most respected names on financial Twitter and a research partner at OSAM. We discuss upside down markets, fiscal policy, and how the stock market can be near all-time highs in terrible economic times.

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[00:02:29] – What is Upside Down Markets

[00:05:44] – Overview on monetary easing and the fed’s role in the markets

[00:09:42] – Why fiscal policy is such an important lever and the impact it has on the economy

[00:15:07] – The impact of stimulus on public companies’ fundamentals

[00:19:25] – The mix of assets in the market due to stimulus

[00:22:13] – What made 1929 so different to how we are reacting today

[00:26:14] – Negative concerns: too much money in the system and the risk of inflation

[00:32:43] – Will the pendulum swing back to labor and higher wages

[00:37:23] – How these changes could impact specific companies or sectors differently 

[00:41:34] – How he is applying all of this to his personal investment philosophy

[00:44:25] – Biggest risks still out there

[00:49:51] – Most interesting gap in his knowledge putting together this piece

Upside Down Markets

Introduction

Patrick
My guest today is Jesse Livermore. I've worked with Jesse as part of our research partners program at O'Shaughnessy Asset Management for years now. Whenever there is a huge important and complex issue to be studied, I believe he's among the best minds in the world to tackle it. He did that recently on the topic of what he calls, “upside-down markets,” which is the topic of this conversation. We seek to answer a simple question “against the horrible economic backdrop, how can the stock market still be near all-time highs?” Jesse explains in detail the impact that fiscal policy has had on the market, and may have in the future. Please enjoy this masterclass on upside-down markets.

The Upside-Down

So Jesse the topic of conversation today is a short book that you put out on what we're going to call upside-down markets. I think the best place to begin would be with you explaining that term. What do you mean in this piece by an upside-down market?

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