Invest Like The Best
Episode 167 Investing Through a Bear Market
Invest Like The Best

Episode 167: Investing Through a Bear Market

Invest Like The Best

Episode 167

Investing Through a Bear Market

Gavin is the founder and CIO of Atreides Management, LP. We cover the ways COVID has dramatically altered the investment landscape, what the different stages of bear markets entail, and which sectors or businesses might emerge as long-term winners from COVID's chaos.

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[00:01:40] – How he sees the markets right now

[00:03:06] – How he handles information uncertainty and the value spreads

[00:05:53] – Trading in today’s market and volatility

[00:09:45] – How economic activity squares with the amount of stimulus being pumped into the market

[00:13:11] – Market Wizards: Interviews with Top Traders

[00:13:56] – Acid tests for individual companies in this environment

[00:19:09] – This Time Is Different: Eight Centuries of Financial Folly

[00:20:45] – His take on software companies during the crisis

[00:28:57] – Fast pace of change during extreme times of duress

[00:35:14] – Space as a service

[00:39:52] – Attention and time inside digital universes and how investors can take advantage

[00:46:17] – Why chaos is a ladder

[00:50:42] – It Was a Very Good Year: Extraordinary Moments in Stock Market History

Investing Through a Bear Market

Introduction

Patrick
My guest today is past guest, Gavin Baker, the founder and CIO of the Atreides Management, LP. We discuss investing during a bear market and the major ways in which the COVID-19 outbreak has dramatically altered the investment landscape. Please enjoy my second conversation with Gavin Baker.

Why This Is Investing's Super Bowl

Gavin
You said this is an absolutely unprecedented market. Nothing other than '08/'09 really compares in my experience. And I did live through '00/'01/'02. And while that obviously had a much greater peak-to-trough decline, particularly for tech, the volatility was not what we saw in '08/09 and you can see that in the VIX. So, why is this kind of game seven of the NBA finals, the Super Bowl, the deciding match in the eSport's tournament? Valuation spreads within a sector between individual stocks are at all time highs. It was a four and a half standard deviation relative to the norm only a few days ago. I think today it's three and a half standard deviations. So, it's swinging around wildly.

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