Episode 42 Bringing Crypto to Emerging Markets

Episode 42: Bringing Crypto to Emerging Markets

Episode 42

Bringing Crypto to Emerging Markets

Matthew Graham is the co-founder and CEO of Sino Global Capital. We cover Sino Global's origin story, venture investing in crypto in emerging markets, and Matt's views on reinventing financial infrastructure.

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[00:02:13] - [First question] - How he got into one of the hardest asset classes in emerging markets

[00:04:43] - What lead him to China and where he first started his career

[00:06:52] - The origin story of Sino Capital and what its first iteration looked like

[00:09:13] - Whether or not he felt he had an edge in the early days 

[00:09:44] - Being comfortable in an uncomfortable idiosyncratic position and if he would have ever gone back to a traditional path 

[00:11:06] - What European and Western investors would miss and not understand about the regions he invests in 

[00:12:07] - His take on Chinese and Indian markets and their similarities and differences

[00:13:05] - Deciding to enter these markets and what gave him the confidence to do so 

[00:14:18] - How often he’s dealing with international founders versus local ones   

[00:15:07] - The Sino Capital business model and balancing being long-term greedy with stakeholder needs 

[00:18:22] - Thoughts on evaluating founding teams and where Sino wants to invest

[00:22:22] - How long they wait to invest after first meeting a team or founder

[00:24:44] - What percentage of his time is spent sourcing new deals versus managing the existing portfolio

[00:26:16] - Whether or not he’s relied on the insight of investors and mentors when it comes to how he’s structured Sino Capital  

[00:27:25] - His philosophy when it comes to bringing new people onto the team 

[00:29:58] - The turnover rate of Sino interns and how many become employees 

[00:31:24] - Ways to explain to laypeople the differences between TradFi and DeFi and the what DeFi will unlock for the future   

[00:35:38] - How he’d rebuild TradFi if he could wave a magic wand

[00:39:24] - Walking through the pros and cons of the role regulation will play in crypto 

[00:44:21] - Where he’d suggest a young entrepreneur go in the world to find a new frontier and which asset classes they should participate in 

[00:45:59] - What he’s most excited to see built in the next six months and six years

Bringing Crypto to Emerging Markets

Introduction

Eric
This is Eric Golden, and my guest today is Matthew Graham. Matt is the Cofounder and CEO of Sino Global Capital, a venture firm that made early investments in FTX, Solana, Wintermute and other notable crypto projects. We discuss the origin story of Sino Global, investing in China and emerging markets, including India, the Middle East and Africa. Matt discusses his views on reinventing financial infrastructure from TradeFi to DeFi. Please enjoy this conversation with Matthew Graham.

Eric
Matt, thank you for joining us today. We're really excited to have you.

Matthew
Thank you for having me. I'm super-psyched to be starting my morning with you today, Eric.

Emerging Market Origins

Eric
I thought a fun place to start would be, when I look at investors, one of the telltale signs if someone is doing something interesting is if they're looking at a place that other people are not. If you're doing growth equity, there's a lot of people that do that. But investors that really invest in crypto through bull markets and bear markets are already interesting to me. It's challenging because of regulatory risk, pace of innovation, use cases. There's lots of reasons why investing in crypto is challenging. If you said, how do I make crypto even harder, I would say, have an American invest in China, India, Africa, be in a deep, emerging market with a breakthrough technology. So I thought that would just be an interesting jumping-off place of, how did you get into investing in one of the hardest asset classes to wrangle in some of the more, what are considered, emerging, nontraditional markets?

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